Identical but Different

The Four Pillars deal with very large, distinct blocks of symbolism. This is one of its limitations, but also one of its strengths: if the Stem on top of the Day Pillar is Yin Fire, that means that you are an active, expressive person who likes to act immediately. If your Animal Year is Rabbit, that means that Self-esteem versus Guilt are your emotional hot buttons when you are in the general public. There’s no blending of symbolisms here; either you have a Pillar or you do not.

If the symbolic blocks in the Four Pillars are large, that means that otherwise identical Four Pillars charts can have different — sometimes vastly different — planet positions in Ancient Greek or Jyotish charts. There are three ways in which identical Pillars can have widely varying planet positions: by latitude, by longitude (time zone), and by gaps of sixty years.

The following is a list of 40 dates and places that have exactly the same Four Pillars. 36 out of 40 are from 1937, numbers 36 through 39 are from 1997 — sixty years later:

PLACE			DATE		TIME		LONGITUDE	LATITUDE	ZONE
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Anchorage, AK		1937/04/22	11:00		149W54		61N13		-10
Honolulu, HI		1937/04/22	12:45		157W52		21N18		-10
Seattle, WA		1937/04/22	11:15		122W20		47N36		-8
Los Angeles, CA		1937/04/22	11:00		118W15		34N04		-8
Edmonton, Alberta, CAN	1937/04/22	12:00		113W28		53N33		-7
Denver, CO		1937/04/22	11:00		104W59		38N44		-7
Mexico City, MEX	1937/04/22	12:00		 99W09		19N24		-6
Chicago, IL		1937/04/22	11:00		 87W39		41N51		-6
Houston, TX		1937/04/22	12:00		 95W22		29N46		-6
Montreal, Quebec, CAN	1937/04/22	11:00		 73W38		45N36		-5
New York, NY		1937/04/22	11:00		 74W00		40N43		-5
Lima, Peru		1937/04/22	12:00		 77W03		12S03		-5
Santiago, Chile		1937/04/22	12:00		 70W40		33S27		-4
Buenos Aires, ARG	1937/04/22	11:00		 35W19		 7S44		-3
Sao Paulo, BRA		1937/04/22	11:00		 46W38		23S33		-3
London, ENG		1937/04/22	11:00		000W00		51N31		-0
Dakar			1937/04/22	13:00		 17W26		14N40		-0
Paris, FRN		1937/04/22	12:00		  2E20		48N52		+1
Berlin, GERM		1937/04/22	12:00		 13E22		53N30		+1
Cape Town, SA		1937/04/22	12:00		 18E22		33S55		+2
Nairobi, KEN		1937/04/22	12:00		 36E49		 1S17		+3
Helsinki, FIN		1937/04/22	12:00		 24E58		60N10		+2
Moscow, USSR		1937/04/22	12:00		 37E35		55N45		+3
Teheran, IRAQ		1937/04/22	12:45		 51E26		35N40		+5
New Delhi, IND		1937/04/22	12:00		 77E12		28N36		+5
Jakarta, INDO		1937/04/22	11:00		106E48		 6S10		+7
Singapore		1937/04/22	12:00		103E51		 1N16		+7
Perth, AUS		1937/04/22	12:00		115E51		31S57		+8
Adelaide, AUS		1937/04/22	11:00		138E35		34S55		+9
Brisbane, AUS		1937/04/22	11:00		153E02		27S28		+10
Sydney, AUS		1937/04/22	11:00		151E13		33S52		+10
Beijing, CHINA		1937/04/22	12:45		116E24		39N55		+8
Vladivostok, USSR	1937/04/22	11:00		131E56		43N10		+9
Tokyo, JAP		1937/04/22	11:00		139E46		35N42		+9
Christchurch, NZ	1937/04/22	12:00		172E38		43S32		+12
Seattle, WA		1997/04/07	11:15		122W20		47N36		-8
Denver, CO		1997/04/07	11:15		104W59		38N44		-7
Chicago, IL		1997/04/07	11:00		 87W39		41N51		-6
Christchurch, NZ	1997/04/07	12:00		172E38		43S32		+12
Neptune, NJ		1937/04/22	11:00		 74W02		40N13		-5

Every date and place listed gives the following Four Pillars:

	4 1 6 7                                                 甲 丁
	0 3 2 5                                                午 卯 辰 丑

The last of the birth data is the data set upon which all of the others are based. This is the nativity of Jack Nicholson. I'll show Jyotish charts for Nicholsons birth, and for perhaps the least similar date and time; that of April 7, 1997 in Christchurch, New Zealand:

╔═════════╤═════════╤═════════╤═════════╗
║Sat      │SUN      │Ket      │         ║ ASC 09Can30'48
║         │Mer      │         │         ║ SUN 09Ari06'49
║         │Ven      │         │         ║ MON 06Vir04'10
║         │ura      │         │         ║ Mer 28Ari39'08
╟─────────┼─────────┴─────────┼─────────╢ Ven 01Ari45'55
║         │1937/04/22         │ASC      ║ Mar 12Sco08'41
║         │11:00am EST        │plu      ║ Jup 03Cap30'59
║         │Neptune, NJ        │         ║ Sat 06Pis43'38
║         │74W01  40N13       │         ║ ura 16Ari09'03
╟─────────┤                   ├─────────╢ nep 23Leo30'49
║Jup      │                   │nep      ║ plu 03Can32'44
║         │                   │         ║ Rah 23Sco01'05
║         │                   │         ║ Ket 23Tau01'05
║         │                   │         ║
╟─────────┼─────────┬─────────┼─────────╢
║         │Mar      │         │MON      ║
║         │Rah      │         │         ║
║         │         │         │         ║
║         │         │         │         ║
╚═════════╧═════════╧═════════╧═════════╝
╔═════════╤═════════╤═════════╤═════════╗
║Sat  Ket │Mer      │ASC      │         ║ ASC 21Tau56'59
║MON      │         │         │         ║ SUN 23Pis23'57
║SUN      │         │         │         ║ MON 17Pis05'11
║Ven      │         │         │         ║ Mer 12Ari22'35
╟─────────┼─────────┴─────────┼─────────╢ Ven 24Pis31'53
║         │1997/04/07         │         ║ Mar 25Leo42'18
║         │12:00pm LST        │         ║ Jup 22Cap14'01
║         │Christchurch, NZ   │         ║ Sat 17Pis18'59
║         │172E38  43S32      │         ║ ura 14Cap19'06
╟─────────┤                   ├─────────╢ nep 05Cap58'06
║Jup      │                   │Mar      ║ plu 11Sco32'43
║ura      │                   │         ║ Rah 04Vir54'04
║nep      │                   │         ║ Ket 04Pis54'04
║         │                   │         ║
╟─────────┼─────────┬─────────┼─────────╢
║         │plu      │         │Rah      ║
║         │         │         │         ║
║         │         │         │         ║
║         │         │         │         ║
╚═════════╧═════════╧═════════╧═════════╝

You can plug both data into the chart program of your choice, if you prefer to use the tropical planet positions and to look at the standard wheel rather than the square Jyotish chart. The charts are still going to look very different. A few of the differences:

1. Pisces has acquired four of the classical planets in the Christchurch chart. Four bodily planets (excluding Rahu or Ketu) in one sign is a yoga (a planetary combination or configuration) for solitude or renunciation. Mr. Nicholson has no burning need to be alone.

2. Jupiter no longer aspects Pluto to within two minutes of arc. However Jupiter does aspect the Ascendant to within a degree, which is dandy! One “innovation” in modern Jyotish comes from V. K. Choudhry’s Systems Approach, which designates the exact degree of the ascendant as the Most Effective Point in any of the signs. Jupiter is therefore within a degree of being at the Most Effective Point in Capricorn, albeit in the weakest sign for Jupiters functioning.

3. In Nicholsons Jyotish chart the Sun is not only less than 25 minutes away from the Most Effective Point in the sign, it’s also in the degree of the Suns highest exaltation, and in the Tenth sign, no less. Jupiter aspecting Pluto to the degree, and the Sun in the degree of highest exaltation and at the Most Effective Point, ensures that Jack has a boon granted to no other birth data on the list — even though all of these birth data have the same Four Pillars.

Ko Hashiguchi • 425-919-2169 • Ko@asianastro.com